Tried it over several weeks now after rhythmbox kept crashing way too often and from my experience it is much more stable also faster and more responsive. Also it uses modern gnome design without any add-on.
Also you can search music with it with the super gnome search, much like in unity7.
You could to use it instead of rhythmbox for the next Lts
and ⌠unfortunately not only does it fail to work or implement the radio station into the program, so that I can hear the music actually play, but also - I cannot understand how the program would ârecordâ the music that I am listening to with my laptop ?
At the moment if I want to the whole ârecord streaming musicâ thing - I have to use audio recorder (program) - which doesnât even have a graph to show music levels that is being recorded, which is pitiful.
So unless I can actually attain streaming from the first step - it could be argued that this is too under-developed for bionic beaver 18.04
Lollypop is python and appears buggy to me. Rhythmbox on the other hand is much more feature proof and has a powerful plugin API which makes it so much more better. Beside, Rhythmbox has proper desktop integration for other non gnome-shell desktop (like unity, flashback, xfce) as well where Lollypop only works well under gnome-shell.
Changing a default application is not done lightly by the Ubuntu Desktop Team. The changes affect millions of installs, disrupting happy user habits and/or company workflows. The potential backlash of millions of angry users creates a rather high threshold to seriously consider change proposals.
Rhythmbox may crash for you. But that doesnât mean it crashes for everybody.
Similarly, Lollipop may crash or fail for others, but not you.
If you are really serious about proposing this change, then start looking at previous similar discussions on the Ubuntu-Desktop mailing list. Here is the starting point discussion on that list when Rhythmbox was originally added. Many of the same issues will arise.
A change request may go in directions you donât anticipate. Example: A new player may be selected that is neither Rhythmbox nor Lollipop but something else. Remember to keep your discussion civil. Be patient. Be positive. Proposals that are argumentative or devolve into I-am-right-and-you-are-wrong are often simply dropped without further comment.
Yes ofc. What I meant was client side decorations, sorry if that was a little bit vaguely described.
We would have the advantage of getting a fresh and actively maintained music application into 18.04 without the urgent need to clear all bugs of rhythmbox until april.
While some LTS users could be unhappy to see their music app changed, they could also be unhappy of having an unstable music app.
If you have an 17.10 installation on some machine or virtual machine you could compare the up to date lollypop from the ppa (ppa:gnumdk/lollypop) with a medium size library to rhythmbox in 17.10.
I reinstalled rhythmbox and cleared all files in cache and .config before trying lollypop but I was convinced quiet fast by the stability AND the really good design
The problem is that it isnât unstable for many users, are you saying that itâs more unstable on 18.04 than 17.10? In which case, which bugs are those and can you link to them?
I think this would be likely. You find Lollipop amazing, but others have said it seems buggy to them (just as Rhythmbox seems buggy to you - people have different experiences with different computers) and there are tons of media players for the Linux desktop elsewhere, so if Ubuntu decided to switch away from Rhythmbox (perhaps to GNOME Music eventually, since that seems to be the next-gen music player for GNOME?) to one of the other alternatives, itâs probably unlikely to be Lollipop, especially considering that your good experience with it doesnât seem to be the same for everyone.
If it were available in Ubuntu Software as a snap or deb it would be great. No need for a PPA then, and whomever wants to use it instead of Rhythmbox, can.
A lot of mention of Rb crashing/unstable without any specific bug(s) mentionedâŚ
Seems to run well here in 18.04 with small exception of audio cdâs due to a not yet addressed bug in libcdio17
Yeah after all one can still use lollypop anyways - if it is preinstalled or not.
Since rhythmbox only fits the modern gtk3 design with the addon enabled, 18.04 could use a music application which uses modern gtk3 design by default, but I repeat myself.
If there would be another survey (after the initial unity - gnome transition survey) about default applications, maybe this question could be asked too. I.e. which default music app should be used: rhythmbox, lollypop or gnome music.
Everything else is more like 5 people say rhythmbox is fine, 2 people say rhythmbox is not
For Lollypop to be even a contender it has to exists in Debian. Then Ubuntu can sync with. It usually takes 2-3 months (or more) to get new packages in debian. So itâs out of 18.04 time frame. However it can be done for next cycle.
The question was asked, Lollypop came 12th and Rhythmbox came second to VLC (I guess Rhythmbox is being kept as default because a) status quo bias is often a good thing in a Linux distribution, we donât want the default applications changing every time we do a survey and a different application comes out on top, and b) it just âmakes senseâ to keep it because itâs a GNOME application that works well, even if VLC potentially works even better when it just comes to playing music)
Your point implies maybe you already know this, I donât think we should be doing constant surveys of the Ubuntu userbase so I donât accept your call for another one. Perhaps another in a few years (or longer) would be good. To get a good response it has to be pushed hard and I donât think people will be willing to participate in a poll all that often.
Source: slide 40 of the slideshow at the bottom of this page
The Ubuntu Desktop Team usually doesnât change its applications selecting during a LTS cycle.
lollypop is current not even packaged in universe which means we got little feedback about it so far, it seems like it would be a good candidate for a snap though
I guess you mean âapplication which fits the GNOME HIGâ. An application that doesnâtâ use GtkHeaderBar is not any less âmodernâ than one that uses it.
By the way, iâm happy with Rhythmbox. Actually, i find the big playback buttons since 3.x a bit ugly.