Application changes?

Kolourpaint.

Up till now, it’s been the best replacement for MS Paint (the original one!), which everyone loved. Perhaps there are newer candidates, I didn’t check.

You’ll notice I moved your comment to a new topic. The original one was not about suggestions for new applications, so your post was not relevant. However, it’s not an unreasonable topic.

In particular, I think it may be wise to consider a better solution than LibreOffice (have you ever tried to draw in that???).

Kolourpaint is perhaps not a bad idea. Maybe as an optional Snap?

Personally I’d rather use a deb for KolourPaint, it’s not one of those things where fancy new changes are necessarily likely or desirable within a release I don’t think. I do like the idea of including it by default, but then again I don’t want to bloat Lubuntu with too much.

What if we added KolourPaint and got rid of… I dunno, maybe LibreOffice Base? Writer, Calc, and Impress I all get needing, and Draw, meh, it’s ok. But Base? I think we could live without it.

I support:

  • Removing LibreOffice Base
  • Removing LibreOffice Draw
  • adding the KolourPaint deb
    …but we have to fix the Tool Box on KolourPaint. Why on earth is that ugliness the default behavior when all the icons are there??? I should point out, too, that you can’t actually directly edit the Tool Box, it seems, so we’d have to do this in a configuration file, if at all. Unless that’s been somehow fixed.

    …and probably make it less white. Aigh it’s blinding!
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Oh sheesh, that really is awful. I don’t think making it less white is a good idea (it should follow the system color scheme, no? if the user wants it less white they can make it less white), but the toolbox is a mess.

I don’t know, that white is assaulting. My feeling in general is this: people with a white color scheme won’t be hurt by black but they’ll change it while too much tendency almost hurts the eyes for people with a black color scheme.

What I don’t understand most of all is why it has kept this default configuration and no one has bothered to change it.

@ne29914 since you seem to actually use it, have you done anything to modify the configuration, visually? If so, would you share your config file?

I will push back here. It is true that dark works in a light color scheme decently, but it is not at all polished for an application to come up not matching the system color scheme unless that application is explicitly designed to disobey the color scheme and do its own thing (Krita and GIMP do this for instance, it’s just how they work). If we take this logic to an extreme, we should just ship with a dark theme by default and all applications forced to dark, with no option to set a light mode, and dark mode actually hurts my eyes due to eyestrain. I use light themes with low brightness because it greatly reduces eyestrain and fatigue for me.

If the application is disobeying the system color scheme, then perhaps we just shouldn’t include it (or we should file a bug against it). If it’s not disobeying the system color scheme, then the user should change their color scheme if they want dark mode.

We are in general agreement here. I wasn’t necessarily suggesting a particular mechanism to solve this (and I would always say that having upstream fix it in a way that is the most generally applicable is the preferred one), but just that it’s a problem.

I have the opposite problem you do, apparently: too much white hurts my eyes. Even taking one look at KolourPaint is quite literally shocking.