Will 6.17 HWE Kernel "apt upgrade" remove already installed HWE 6.14 kernels on 24.04?

[Jeff]

Ubuntu Version:
24.04

Desktop Environment (if applicable):
Cinnamon

Problem Description:
I noticed “apt upgrade” is trying to install 6.17 HWE kernel in 24.04.

I did not install 6.17 HWE kernel update yet.

There are the following 6.14 HWE packages installed, which I would like to keep:

linux-hwe-6.14-headers-6.14.0-36/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1 all [installed,automatic]
linux-hwe-6.14-headers-6.14.0-37/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.14.0-37.37~24.04.1 all [installed,automatic]
linux-hwe-6.14-tools-6.14.0-36/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-hwe-6.14-tools-6.14.0-37/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.14.0-37.37~24.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

Sure I could put a hold on current 6.14 HWE packages, but would rather (slowly and carefully) test how it behaves with 6.17 HWE kernel, as long as I could keep currently installed 6.14 HWE kernels and usually boot into 6.14 HWE kernel (there should be enough space on /boot).

Will “apt upgrade” remove all already installed HWE 6.14 kernel(s) on 24.04 and install 6.17 HWE Kernel instead?

Any advise how to keep both HWE 6.14 and 6.17 HWE kernels?

Thank you.

[MesterPerfect]

No, apt upgrade will not immediately remove your already installed 6.14 HWE kernels.

Ubuntu keeps multiple kernel versions installed. The new 6.17 HWE kernel will be installed alongside 6.14, and you can still select 6.14 from the GRUB “Advanced options” menu.

Old kernels are only removed automatically later by autoremove, and usually only when they are no longer the currently running or fallback versions.

[Jeff]

@MesterPerfect

fallback version

Thank you. Whats a fallback version in this context?

[graymech]

It is that second Linux kernel that is listed when we select Advanced Options for Ubuntu. I do not know if “fallback” is the official term. I have never described it as that. But it fits.

Some things to remember.

1. Software Updater will remove an older Linux kernel every time it installs a new Linux kernel. This is because Software Updater runs apt update: apt upgrade and apt autoremove.

2. The command apt update will declare the packages that are no longer needed and advise that apt autoremove be run.

3. Not running apt autoremove means that you will get a collection of Linux kernels which take up storage space. To prevent this happening is the reason that Software Updater automatically runs apt autoremove.

Regards

[paddylandau]

To add to the previous replies, the automatic software updater (or, if you prefer, autoremove) always keeps two copies: The newest two.

For the vast majority of users, that’s sufficient.

If you have a specific reason to keep older kernels, you can mark them as manually-installed, which prevents the system from auto-removing them. Be aware that when you have too many kernels, it fills up your boot partition (mounted as /boot), which can prevent further upgrades. You can of course increase your boot partition as required. (If you’re not using Secure Boot, your boot might be in the main partition, in which case you won’t have to worry.)

[Claus7]

Hello,

I tried the upgrade and I think that this is the first time after a lot of kernel upgrades, that I had the option to remove so many older kernel versions. Using the command:

less /var/log/apt/history.log

I saw that I purged the following kernels:

Remove: linux-modules-extra-6.14.0-36-generic:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), liblzf1:amd64 (3.6-4), linux-tools-6.14.0-36-generic:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), linux-headers-6.8.0-52-generic:amd64 (6.8.0-52.53), libgsoap-2.8.132t64:amd64 (2.8.132-2.1build2), linux-image-6.14.0-36-generic:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), linux-headers-6.14.0-36-generic:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), libtpms0:amd64 (0.9.3-0ubuntu4.24.04.1), libvncserver1:amd64 (0.9.14+dfsg-1build2), linux-hwe-6.14-headers-6.14.0-36:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), linux-headers-6.8.0-52:amd64 (6.8.0-52.53), linux-hwe-6.14-tools-6.14.0-36:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), linux-modules-6.14.0-36-generic:amd64 (6.14.0-36.36~24.04.1), dkms:amd64 (3.0.11-1ubuntu13)

I do not know if this was related to the issue I faced with virtualbox that I posted earlier.

To the OP discussion, the older kernel versions were proposed to get removed, they were not removed on their own.

Regards!

[Jeff]

@Claus7

I do not know if this was related to the issue I faced with virtualbox that I posted earlier.

I did see virtualbox issue opened with 6.16 and later on Github (it was a crash I believe).

Could you share a link to your virtualbox post?

Are you experiencing that issue on Ubuntu’s HWE 6.17?

[ian-weisser]

The current Apt behavior is to keep a minimum of two kernels:

• The new kernel (this is for next boot)
• The currently-running kernel (since it seems to work, it’s assumed safe to revert to)
• Additionally, any held kernel packages (these, if any, are up to you)

Yes, that means once you boot into a 6.17 kernel, your older 6.14 kernel packages may become eligible for autoremoval. Autoremoval is triggered by the next 6.17 kernel to appear in the repos. Typically a week or two. Maybe shorter, maybe longer.

The simplest way to test a newer kernel on your hardware to boot a LiveUSB of the most recent release of Ubuntu and enter the 'Try Ubuntu" environment. HWE kernels typically bump about three months after April/October releases of Ubuntu.

For folks with touchy hardware, consider stepping off the upgrade treadmill. The LTS GA kernel gets all the security patches with none of the semi-annual upgrade-testing headaches.

[guiverc]

To @Jeff, just FYI.

I just ran a couple of QA test installs using the current noble daily; or what will soon be released as Ubuntu 24.04.4.

@ian-weisser

The simplest way to test a newer kernel on your hardware to boot a LiveUSB of the most recent release of Ubuntu and enter the 'Try Ubuntu" environment.

Ian suggest testing it, the Lubuntu 24.04 daily LTS ISO I tested (maybe 90 mins ago) included the 6.17 kernel.

You’ll get the same for Ubuntu Cinnamon; after all they’re one of the flavors that are releasing a 24.04.4 ISO soon (see here)

https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntucinnamon/noble/daily-live/current/noble-desktop-amd64.manifest

|linux-generic-hwe-24.04|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-headers-6.17.0-14-generic|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-headers-generic-hwe-24.04|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-hwe-6.17-headers-6.17.0-14|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-hwe-6.17-tools-6.17.0-14|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-image-6.17.0-14-generic|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-image-generic-hwe-24.04|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-modules-6.17.0-14-generic|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|
|linux-modules-extra-6.17.0-14-generic|6.17.0-14.14~24.04.1|

[corradoventu]

on my Ubuntu 24.04:

after sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade

corrado@corrado-n2-noble:~$ ls /bootconfig-6.14.0-36-generic grub initrd.img.old System.map-6.14.0-36-generic vmlinuz-6.14.0-37-genericconfig-6.14.0-37-generic initrd.img memtest86+ia32.bin System.map-6.14.0-37-generic vmlinuz-6.17.0-14-genericconfig-6.17.0-14-generic initrd.img-6.14.0-36-generic memtest86+ia32.efi System.map-6.17.0-14-generic vmlinuz.oldefi initrd.img-6.14.0-37-generic memtest86+x64.bin vmlinuzgrml initrd.img-6.17.0-14-generic memtest86+x64.efi vmlinuz-6.14.0-36-genericcorrado@corrado-n2-noble:~$

and after reboot:

corrado@corrado-n2-noble:~$ ls /bootconfig-6.14.0-37-generic      initrd.img-6.17.0-14-generic  System.map-6.17.0-14-genericconfig-6.17.0-14-generic      initrd.img.old                vmlinuzefi                           memtest86+ia32.bin            vmlinuz-6.14.0-37-genericgrml                          memtest86+ia32.efi            vmlinuz-6.17.0-14-genericgrub                          memtest86+x64.bin             vmlinuz.oldinitrd.img                    memtest86+x64.efiinitrd.img-6.14.0-37-generic  System.map-6.14.0-37-genericcorrado@corrado-n2-noble:~$

[Claus7]

Hello,

The link:

Latest hwe kernel upgrade 6.17.0-14-generic conflicts with virtualbox 7.0.16 under 24.04

Ubuntu Version: 24.04 LTS Desktop Environment: Example: GNOME wayland Problem Description: I tried to upgrade my system to the latest kernel proposed (see title). The installation didn’t finish completely as I was receiving errors due to conflicts with virtualbox. Screenshots or Error Messages: With the command: less /var/crash/virtualbox-dkms.0.crash These are some errors: In file included from vboxdrv/SUPDrv.c:43: vboxdrv/SUPDrvInternal.h:47:10: fatal error: VBox/cdefs.h: No such fil…

The answer is yes, I faced that issue on Ubuntu’s HWE 6.17.

Regards!

[Jeff]

Given there’s 2 versions of 6.14 kernel (and some versions of 6.17) is it possible to uninstall ALL original 6.8 kernels? (hopefully no need for a new topic for this relevant question)

6.8 kernel have no use for me, but take space.

I tried earlier with “Mainline Kernels“ app, I believe there was a dependency issue.

[ian-weisser]

On a properly configured system, APT would have removed those older kernels long ago.

Please show us the complete output of ls -lah /boot and of apt list linux-image-6.8*

[Jeff]

Ubuntu Version:
24.04

Desktop Environment (if applicable):
Cinnamon

Problem Description:
There’s 2 versions of HWE 6.14 kernel installed, but still unable to uninstall ALL original 6.8 kernels.

6.8 kernel have no use for me, but it takes space.

Goal: completely uninstall ALL 6.8 kernels if possible.

Relevant System Information:
I’d like to keep current 6.14 kernels for a while, therefore have the following packages on hold:

linux-generic-hwe-24.04 linux-headers-generic-hwe-24.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-24.04

The issue appeared before putting these packages on hold (which is a very recent change).

Mainline Kernels app log when removing last 6.8 kernel:

mainline 1.4.13
uninstall 6.8.0-100.100 
Uninstalling 6.8.0-100.100
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-headers-generic:
 linux-generic depends on linux-headers-generic (= 6.8.0-100.100).

dpkg: error processing package linux-headers-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-generic:
 linux-generic depends on linux-image-generic (= 6.8.0-100.100).

dpkg: error processing package linux-image-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic:
 linux-image-generic depends on linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic.

dpkg: error processing package linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic:
 linux-headers-generic depends on linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic.

dpkg: error processing package linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic:
 linux-image-generic depends on linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic.

dpkg: error processing package linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic:
 linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic depends on linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic.
 linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic depends on linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic.

dpkg: error processing package linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-headers-6.8.0-100:
 linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic depends on linux-headers-6.8.0-100.

dpkg: error processing package linux-headers-6.8.0-100 (--purge):
 dependency problems - not removing
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-headers-generic
 linux-image-generic
 linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic
 linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic
 linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic
 linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic
 linux-headers-6.8.0-100
mainline: done

ls /boot
config-6.14.0-36-generic  initrd.img-6.14.0-36-generic  memtest86+ia32.efi            vmlinuz
config-6.14.0-37-generic  initrd.img-6.14.0-37-generic  memtest86+x64.bin             vmlinuz-6.14.0-36-generic
config-6.8.0-100-generic  initrd.img-6.8.0-100-generic  memtest86+x64.efi             vmlinuz-6.14.0-37-generic
efi                       initrd.img.old                System.map-6.14.0-36-generic  vmlinuz-6.8.0-100-generic
grub                      lost+found                    System.map-6.14.0-37-generic  vmlinuz.old
initrd.img                memtest86+ia32.bin            System.map-6.8.0-100-generic

apt list --installed |grep "6.8" |grep linux

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

linux-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed]
linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-headers-6.8.0-100/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 all [installed,automatic]
linux-headers-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-image-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-libc-dev/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-tools-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-tools-6.8.0-100/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-tools-6.8.0-71-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-71.71 amd64 [installed]
linux-tools-6.8.0-71/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-71.71 amd64 [installed]
linux-tools-common/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 all [installed,automatic]

Summary

apt list linux-image-6.8*

Listing…
linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-image-6.8.0-1001-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1001.3 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1002-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1002.4 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1003-gke/noble 6.8.0-1003.5 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1003-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1003.5 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1004-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1004.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1004-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1004.6 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1005-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1005.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1005-ibm/noble 6.8.0-1005.5 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1005-intel/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1005.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1005-oem/noble 6.8.0-1005.5 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1005-oracle/noble 6.8.0-1005.5 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.6 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-intel/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.13 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.6 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1006-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1006.6 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-azure-fde/noble 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-azure/noble 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-gcp/noble 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1007.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1007.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1007-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1007.7 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-aws/noble 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1008-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1008.8 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1009-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1009.9 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.13 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1010-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1010.10 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.14 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.13 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.11.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1011-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1011.11 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.13 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.14 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.14 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.13 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.15 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-gkeop/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.14 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.12.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-oem/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1012-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1012.12 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1013-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1013.14 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1013-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1013.15 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1013-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1013.15 amd64
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linux-image-6.8.0-1036-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1036.38 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1036-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1036.40 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1036-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1036.36 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1036-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1036.39.1 amd64
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linux-image-6.8.0-1038-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1038.44 amd64
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linux-image-6.8.0-1040-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1040.41 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.43 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-azure-fde/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.48 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.47+1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.43 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.46 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.41 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.44.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.44 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1041-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1041.42 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.44 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-azure/noble-updates 6.8.0-1042.48 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.45 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-gke/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.47 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.42 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.45.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.45+1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1042-oracle/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1042.43 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1043-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1043.45 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1043-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1043.46 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1043-ibm/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1043.43 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1043-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1043.46.1 amd64
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linux-image-6.8.0-1044-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1044.46 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1044-azure-fde/noble-updates 6.8.0-1044.51 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1044-azure/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1044.50 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1044-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1044.47 amd64
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linux-image-6.8.0-1044-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1044.47 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1045-aws/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1045.47 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1045-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1045.48 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1045-nvidia-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1045.48.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1045-nvidia/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1045.48 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-1046-gcp/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-1046.49 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-31-generic/noble 6.8.0-31.31 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-31-lowlatency/noble 6.8.0-31.31.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-35-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-35.35+1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-35-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-35.35.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-36-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-36.36 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-36-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-36.36.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-38-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-38.38 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-38-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-38.38.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-39-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-39.39 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-39-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-39.39.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-40-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-40.40 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-40-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-40.40.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-41-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-41.41 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-41-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-41.41.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-44-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-44.44 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-44-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-44.44.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-45-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-45.45 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-45-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-45.45.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-47-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-47.47 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-47-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-47.47.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-48-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-48.48 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-48-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-48.48.3 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-49-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-49.49 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-49-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-49.49.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-50-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-50.51 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-50-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-50.51.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-51-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-51.52 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-51-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-51.52.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-52-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-52.53 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-52-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-52.53.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-53-generic/noble-updates 6.8.0-53.55 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-53-lowlatency/noble-updates 6.8.0-53.55.2 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-54-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-54.56 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-54-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-54.56.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-55-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-55.57 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-55-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-55.57.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-56-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-56.58+1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-56-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-56.58.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-57-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-57.59 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-57-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-57.59.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-58-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-58.60+1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-58-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-58.60.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-59-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-59.61 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-59-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-59.61.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-60-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-60.63 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-60-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-60.63.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-62-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-62.65 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-62-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-62.65.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-63-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-63.66 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-63-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-63.66.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-64-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-64.67 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-64-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-64.67.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-65-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-65.68.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-71-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-71.71 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-78-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-78.78 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-78-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-78.78.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-79-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-79.79 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-79-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-79.79.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-83-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-83.83 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-83-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-83.83.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-84-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-84.84 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-84-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-84.84.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-85-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-85.85 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-85-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-85.85.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-86-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-86.87 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-86-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-86.87.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-87-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-87.88 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-87-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-87.88.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-88-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-88.89 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-88-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-88.89.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-90-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-90.91 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-90-lowlatency/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-90.91.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-94-generic/noble-updates,noble-security 6.8.0-94.96 amd64
linux-image-6.8.0-94-lowlatency/noble-updates 6.8.0-94.96.1 amd64
linux-image-6.8.1-1015-realtime/noble-updates 6.8.1-1015.16 amd64

What I’ve Tried:
Attempted to manually remove 6.8.0-100 kernel with “Mainline Kernels“ app, which failed due to package dependency.

[Jeff]

@ian-weisser

apt list linux-image-6.8*

Done.

I created a new post before reading your updated post, therefore ls command doesn’t have the options you listed. Please let me know if this is an issue.

[ian-weisser]

(I merged your two topics.)

You have exactly one 6.8 kernel that is ostensibly installed, but also a long list of errors when you try to uninstall it.

You have NO other 6.8 kernels installed, so perhaps less space consumed than you feared.

Your system is not damaged, and those packages can remain broken and installed as they are if you wish.

If you wish to clean up the broken packages, then an you shed any light upon any apt-marking, apt-pinning, or other customizations you did that might be impacting that last 6.8 kernel? Any volunteered information would be welcome. Asking you to try every possibility can be rather tedious.

Curious that you are using a “Mainline Kernel” app. We DON’T recommend that to beginners, as mainline kernels are not supported here. Mainline kernels are used only for testing, and most testers have plenty of experience with APT already.

[Jeff]

Looks like I messed up a previous post sorry. Just in case replying to yours again.

@ian-weisser

You’re aware that LTS release of Ubuntu have TWO possible kernel tracks?

Yes, thank you.

I managed to uninstall 6.8 with apt in terminal:

Removing linux-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...                                                                             
Removing linux-image-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...                                                                       Removing linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100)

and

Removing linux-headers-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...

and

Removing linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-tools-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-tools-6.8.0-100 (6.8.0-100.100) ...

But not sure if I should also remove these packages?

apt list --installed |grep "6.8" |grep linux

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

linux-libc-dev/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-tools-common/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 all [installed,automatic]

Are these packages a part of 6.8.0-100?

[ian-weisser]

@Jeff

How does one remove 6.8 kernel from terminal?

We’re almost ready to answer that.

But first, a final question: You’re aware that LTS release of Ubuntu have TWO possible kernel tracks?

• GA kernel. This is used on the LTS Server, and remains on the same kernel family for life. The 24.04 GA kernel will always be 6.8.x family. This uses the linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic metapackages.

• HWE kernel. This is used on the LTS Desktop, and it jumps to newer kernel families every six months. The 24.04 HWE kernel is the one that just jumped from 6.14 to 6.17. This uses the linux-image-generic-hwe-24.04 and linux-headers-generic-hwe-24.04 metapackages.

Now take a look at all those APT errors again. Whenever you try to remove 6.8.100, the system is responding that is cannot because you still have the GA metapackage(s) installed.

Try uninstalling those GA metapackages, and then APT should let you remove the 6.8.100 kernel without complaint.

[Jeff]

Looks like I messed up a previous post sorry. Just in case replying to yours again.

@ian-weisser

You’re aware that LTS release of Ubuntu have TWO possible kernel tracks?

Yes, thank you.

I managed to uninstall 6.8 with apt in terminal:

Removing linux-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...                                                                             
Removing linux-image-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...                                                                       Removing linux-image-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100)

and

Removing linux-headers-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-headers-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...

and

Removing linux-modules-extra-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-modules-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-tools-6.8.0-100-generic (6.8.0-100.100) ...
Removing linux-tools-6.8.0-100 (6.8.0-100.100) ...

But not sure if I should also remove these packages?

apt list --installed |grep "6.8" |grep linux

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

linux-libc-dev/noble-updates,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-tools-common/noble-updates,noble-updates,noble-security,noble-security,now 6.8.0-100.100 all [installed,automatic]

Are these packages a part of 6.8.0-100?

[ogra]

@Jeff

Mainline Kernels app log when removing last 6.8 kernel:

mainline 1.4.13

Note that the “Mainline” app is known to break a lot of things in the default kernel management (not to mention that it installs known vulnerable and known broken kernels that use the wrong build config and lack a ton of security patches Ubuntu normally ships, it also breaks the automatic update functionality of the OS), I’d recommend to uninstall it ASAP …