And Unity too.
We haven’t seen LTS requalification requests from Ubuntu MATE nor Ubuntu
Unity, so these will release subject to release team approval, and they
will be non-LTS.
And Unity too.
We haven’t seen LTS requalification requests from Ubuntu MATE nor Ubuntu
Unity, so these will release subject to release team approval, and they
will be non-LTS.
That was covered in the last Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter
The lack of flavor [LTS] status mostly impacts release of point release media as I see it, as if problems are discovered, bugs can be filed & team members (ie. Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Unity etc, or any MOTU etc) can still SRU fixes during the standard support life of the LTS.
That can actually occur during the full five years of standard support, the flavor teams offer (guarantee) to do it only the three years; so maybe the loss is loss of even a three year guarantee.
My 2c view.
Problems the team is having with lack of contributors isn’t new, and showed last cycle (25.10) I felt. These two flavor teams aren’t the only teams lacking contributors currently either; but lacking contributors is a problem in most voluntary projects
I asked in the Ubuntu Release room on Matrix for help and if we ( Ubuntu Unity) still could apply for a LTS requalification request. Sadly I didn’t get any response at all.
I explained that neither I nor Tobiyo knew about a requalification process until i saw the UWN topic mentioning it. I also told them that Rudra still is absent.
We need Rudra to take care of some things that may take 5 to 10 minutes max, all that needs to be done is providing the right permissions to set up mirroring correctly and some other things so we can move on. At this point we are stuck. We want and need to move forward.
To be honest, i was beyond frustration and disappointment after reading about the LTS requalification requests. I feel that as a project lead one needs to fulfill his/her obligation or step down and let someone else do it. There are certain deadlines to be dealt with but sadly this small task hasn’t been fulfilled by the current project leads for whatever reason.
Real life obligations are one, other or new projects is another. In the latter: make a choice.
At our end, to me and Tobiyo, this feels like a let down because we are dedicated and passionated and working on it to keep our project going. But how are we going to proceed if we don’t get any response from anyone?
Still… We won’t give up that easily.
Besides not being an LTS it certainly appears that Ubuntu MATE is done for good.Take a stroll through the Ubuntu MATE Discourse and tell me I’m wrong.
It’s truly sad that it’s ending the way it is,complete and total silence from the leader(s) and just let it fade away into obscurity.Very sad indeed.
It would be nice knowing what’s going on if anything. At least say the project is dead.
I guess my question is why did he post this so late in this cycle? Think of all the good that could have been done if this had been stated some time back.
Doesn’t matter. We all have lives. It was a side project for him. He has never been paid to do it.
It shouldn’t need restating but let’s all keep in mind that the flavours are maintained by unpaid volunteers.
What keeps them going? Passion and probably lots of coffee.
But then real life takes over and priorities change.
If you have the time and skills, now is your chance to make a difference.
Would you have volunteered to take over had it been announced earlier ?
(I don’t think lacking manpower is a timing problem
)
I have to respond to both @eeickmeyer and @rubi1200
These are all great platitudes but all the folks who use the flavors as end users are always being beat over the head with all the maintainers are volunteers,we’re always being told then we should help.Well I’m just an end user and the only way I’ve ever been able to help is donate money which I have.
Much as @maik-adamietz states earlier:
I will not comment on this any further as my frustration with how things were handled is beyond my ability to articulate at this point.
No but someone else with the proper skill set very well might have.And this from my above post because it’s all I can do:
A post was merged into an existing topic: Thank You to Martin Wimpress (Ubuntu MATE)