So I was watching some videos about popular YouTubers using Linux and I believe they are worth watching, specifically ones that were talking about Ubuntu & Snaps. I personally think that with their audience, its worth taking their feedback and try to improve Ubuntu, especially in the first impressions side of things.
From Betty (Switch and Click) who seems to be having many funky issues with Ubuntu & Snaps to the point she ends up recommending Mint, Fedora and Zorin in the end as she finds them less painful to setup.
- She seems to be finding that many of the apps she installed from the App Store was a bust as they were Snaps, like OBS and Brave
With LTT’s 30 Day Linux Challenge, he’s been finding a lot of stuff on the internet that tells him that Snaps are “the wrong package” when he was dealing with OBS. While he didn’t say what finally worked in the end for him, still gotta leave a bad taste in someone’s mouth when a noob Linux user gets told that Snaps are wrong.
I’m trying to find the Gamers Nexus video that I watched a while back where he sorta ranted about Snaps for a bit. I’ll update this if I find it.
Found Gamer’s Nexus video, who wasted a day of troubleshooting and didn’t know the cause of his problems was the Steam snap
There is a voluble minority on Reddit that always comes in to slam Ubuntu and snap. It’s fine. People come back to them and say that they’re mostly talking nonsense. Yes, some snaps have a problem, it’s true, and they should be fixed, but the vast majority of them are fine.
A number of people still spread myths about snap. But I wouldn’t let it worry you. Ubuntu is still the most popular distribution worldwide, from what I’ve read.
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Please do not bother. I am not interested in the slightest in what haters of Ubuntu say about Ubuntu.
Mark Shuttleworth used to publish a monthly blog. I found that blog to be interesting because it gave pointers to the direction Ubuntu was being taken.
Mark stopped writing that blog because of the hate comments that were being attached to it. Hate for Ubuntu has been published for years.
And here you are on Ubuntu Discourse re-publishing Ubuntu hate. And pretending that you are doing it for our benefit. Please do not do it.
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Reminder from your friendly moderators:
This is constructive.
This is not.
Let’s all please head back over to the “constructive” side of the street.
Thank you.
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How can they be haters if they don’t use Linux daily, and either dabble or just started?
I like Ubuntu and Snaps, & even in my Garuda Linux gaming PC, I went out of my way to install Snap there from the AUR. I also have fair amount in there, like Discord, VS Code & Brave. I even wished it wasn’t in the AUR just so that KDE Linux can use it. On a small part, I even use Netplan to manage my network bridge in my gaming PC. Same for my primary laptop with Pop!_OS, & my work desktop with KDE Neon.
However, just thinking its all sunshine & rainbows, ignore the critics & haters doesn’t help anyone. They’re content creators so their first priority is their job, so good chance they never reported these bugs officially. That doesn’t mean its not valid.
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From the Spanish-speaking community, I think the only major complaint remaining about Snap is the need to clean up the store. I mentioned it the other day. There are a lot of abandoned apps that should probably be removed.
Not only are some Snaps broken due to poor maintenance, but when you open the store, it’s rare to find anything on the front page that’s actually useful. Flathub does a really good job with this.
In the more global community, Reddit, the complaints about Snap are less constructive. They’re simply annoyed by its existence, and there’s not much that can be done about that. They’ll always find something to complain about. Right now, they’re distracted with AI, haha.
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What are you hoping to gain from posting this? What is your end goal?
Visibility, and the perspectives of users who aren’t really Linux enthusiasts. Its easier to share these YouTubers’ perspective because I watch their videos
I like Ubuntu a lot, but I can’t help but feel like it got comfortable being the popular one and the default recommendation that its suffering from a lot of papercuts. There’s been a growing sentiment lately as well that “Fedora is the new Ubuntu”, & its starting to become the default recommendation (alongside Linux Mint).
Then this is completely the wrong place to be posting. I would understand if you had an anti-snap bent and were trying to get people at Canonical to notice (I can assure you, they have, they are just choosing not to interact).
A lot of people are saying that snap sucks and they wish Canonical had never invented it and wish it weren’t integrated into Ubuntu. Well, it’s way too late to go back. Snap is so critical to working with Ubuntu now that, even though Snap uses Ubuntu, Ubuntu uses Snap, and they’re tightly integrated, and they are both Canonical products, but they aren’t projects by each other. Snap isn’t a project underneath the Ubuntu umbrella. The same could be said about LXD, or Microcloud, or numerous other Canonical products. Ubuntu is just one Canonical product that also happens to be a community project overseen and governed by the Ubuntu community.
With that in mind, if you wish to promote Ubuntu, showing the negatives here is going about it the wrong way. That’s never a good way to get people motivated.
In general, we don’t listen to the vocal minority of people; they’re just making noise.
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Snaps are perfectly fine.
Some software I prefer using as a deb package (Firefox is one of them).
Some software I prefer on Snap because of the containerization (Discord and Signal).
Snaps have pros and cons. Using a ppa & a .deb has a set of pros and cons. Even using flatpak has its own pros and cons.
At the end of the day, its your computer, how you want to use it is up to you. That’s the best part of Linux, is its customizability and flexibility. There’s no right or wrong way to install software. You do what works best for your workflow.
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