Disapearing web pages: Continuing

See also: - Disappearing web pages

Ubuntu Version:
Ubuntu 24.04.4 LTS

Desktop Environment (if applicable):
XFCE dual screen with Windows 11 dual boot.

Web Page: Brave 1.89.143 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Chromium: 147.0.7727.117

Problem Description:
I open a Brave web page noticing now that the ?Lion used by Brave cab be black, not its usual red. I select the menu and the web page disappears. I click on the top to move the page and it disappears. I select a favourite from the ‘bar’, and the drop down window will disappear most times, or a folder in that drop down will open then shut. These make the web page unusuable. It appears to improve with time and become more stable. It also occurs with Firefox.

Relevant System Information:
NVIDIA GA 106 [GeForce RTX 3060 Lite Hash Rate] with driver nvidia-driver-580-open (proprietary tested)

What I’ve Tried:
Re-installed Brave browser. Changed to Xfce descktop which seeamed at first to cure the problem. However yesterday whilst researching using Brave the problem started again and this time the whole web page actually disappeared including the panel. I opened Brave again and it opened a fresh new page with a new tab. I had lost the information and links followed. It was not in the history either. I have not made any changes or updates, I will start using Firefox to see if it again also has problems which develop over time. In the meantime I am wondering if there is a deeper problem masked by the change to Xfce,

Seeing that your issue hasn’t been resolved and having searched for that GPU, I cannot help but be reminded of this somewhat related issue with similar hardware.
Long story short, the “solution” was to install Ubuntu 26.04. But before you go down that path, you might want to try the Ubuntu Additional Drivers tool to see if there is a newer driver version than 580, because that wasn’t tried in the other thread, IIRC. I also initially assumed that it was an older Nvidia GPU – the versioning gets ever more confusing, especially for outsiders – so I suggested to opposite direction.

BTW, is there a typo in “[GeForce RTX 30360 Lite]”, because initially that turned up no search results. Also, seeing the “Lite” makes me think that it’s cut short and stands for “Lite Hash Rate”, like in the other thread, which are special GPU’s for gaming purposes with crippled compute power, so as to discourage their use in crypto coin mining and/or “Ai” applications. Wouldn’t be the first time such specialties cause driver issues, even though they are essentially the same hardware as the non-Lite versions.

Corrected the GPU information, thank you. I have no idea or way to check if it is crippled.

By “crippled” I mean that LHR (Lite Hash Rate) foils crypto miners by detecting such operations and artificially reducing performance, so as to make the electrical energy more expensive than the mining revenue. It should not have any effect on legit usage for everything graphics.
And yes, yours is exactly the same LHR-type GPU as that of @proudaughter in the aforementioned thread, so I think you should explore a newer driver version first, but do stick to the official Ubuntu tools and repositories, because cleaning up after Nvidia’s installer is something I don’t have fond memories of; but they are very distant memories, thankfully.

I followed that link and it suggested a nouveau driver. I installed that but on reboot I am faced with a flashing cursor. :worried: I am using windows on my dual boot system to reply here and have no idea what I should do next to revert to the previous driver.

https://search.brave.com/search?q=ubuntu+how+to+revert+to+a+previous+driver+whilst+in+recovery+mode+after+installing+a+bad+driver&source=desktop&summary=1&conversation=090d352475c986699d49e95cc8191bb9c10d

Suggests revert to an open-source Nouveau driver which I already have (unless it is bad). But, it also suggests restoring the default config after backing up the xorg.conf. I favour this but am a complete novice.

Which link? And who/what made the suggestion?

That’s kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the search terms. :wink:

You just need to start in recovery mode, then open the Drivers tool and select a different driver, preferably a newer version than Nvidia’s 580. I also doubt that such rather recent hardware is even supported by the Nouveau driver of Ubuntu 24.04. Again, see that other thread, I mentioned; @proudaughter had garbled graphics with the 24.04.4 installer which is using said Nouveau driver, as far as I can tell.

Search result - for comment please.

My apologies, I am unfamiliar with theis web page and pasted the url in the body.

This isn’t a super useful or friendly way to ask questions.

Posting a link to an AI powered search means that it’s very possible that everyone who clicks that link sees a different result. Also, asking us to all click a link and have a random AI generate a result, for us to then read and then interpret and give you feedback is incredibly inefficient.

I would strongly recommend using an alternative path here.

For example, point us to a link on a static web page, such as a forum, where we will all see the same text.

Alternatively copy and paste some text from the page.

Just posting a link and asking for comment is very likely to get you no help at all, or flagged as a apammer. Please put a little more effort in.

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Given that I am a complete novice, how do I do that? I can get into recovery mode and tried to open the terminal to access the drivers.

You said you can reach recovery mode, so: reboot, hold Shift if needed to see the GRUB menu, pick “Advanced options for Ubuntu”, then the entry ending in “(recovery mode)”.

From the recovery menu:

  1. Pick network - enables networking, drops you back to the menu
  2. Pick root - gives you a shell with a # prompt at the bottom

At the # prompt, type this and press Enter:

apt install nvidia-driver-580-open

If it asks anything, answer y. When it’s done, type reboot.

That should put you back where you were before you switched to nouveau. Don’t touch any other drivers in the meantime - one change at a time. Post back when you’re up and we can pick up from there.

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On pressing enter after the driver install it said:

Err1 http://failure resolving ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com

Temporary failure resolving ‘gb.archive.ubuntu.com

Err2 https:// brave-browser-apt-release

That is as much as I remember after using the suggested apt update when it downloaded some files. It also suggested –fix-missing but I dont know how to use that.

Sorry, of course that was a ridiculous link to give. I am not used to AI yet :downcast_face_with_sweat:

In my defence I can only say that at 11 I was using a piece of wood to which I could attach a piece of metal to dip into an inkwell.

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No worries, recovery mode networking can be a bit hit and miss. --fix-missing won’t help in this case because nothing’s reaching the mirrors at all - it’s probably a DNS issue rather than missing files.

This is a bit complicated for a self-confessed newb. Sorry.

Two things to try, in order:

1. Try networking again

Reboot back into recovery mode. When the recovery menu appears:

  • Pick network, wait for it to finish, you’ll be back at the menu
  • Pick network a second time - sometimes it needs two goes
  • Then pick root to get to the # prompt
  • Type: ping -c 2 8.8.8.8 and press Enter

If that returns replies, networking is up - run apt install nvidia-driver-580-open again. Any complaints about the brave-browser repo are unrelated and harmless, ignore them.

If ping gets nothing back, networking isn’t coming up in recovery mode at all. Skip to step 2.

2. Boot the desktop with a temporary safety setting

This gets you a working desktop without needing networking. Once you’re in, you can use the graphical Drivers tool to switch back.

  • Reboot. At the GRUB menu (where you pick Ubuntu or Windows), highlight the normal Ubuntu entry but don’t press Enter
  • Press the e key - this opens an editor
  • Use the arrow keys to find the line that begins with linux (it’s a long one with lots of text)
  • Press the End key to jump to the end of that line
  • Type a space, then: nomodeset
  • Press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot

The change only applies to this one boot - nothing is saved. You should (maybe, hopefully) land at your desktop. Nothing is fixed yet, though! Open Additional Drivers (search “Drivers” in the Whisker menu), select nvidia-driver-580-open, click Apply, then reboot when it’s done.

Take your time. Nothing here can damage hardware. If you have a smartphone, maybe take a photo of any errors if you get them, and attach them here in your replies :slight_smile:

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I get a not reachable error after selecting networking twice. I forgot to continue with you instructions. (wife keeps shoving piece of cake she want testing in my face, sorry)

It seems there are two options how to proceed. You can try step 2 of @popey’s suggestion or you can manually fix the network in recovery mode. You can try and do the latter by selecting root in the recovery menu and then run:

systemctl start NetworkManager

The spelling, as always with Linux, is case sensitive. There may also be Tab completion available, which vastly reduces typing and spelling errors. As soon as the beginning of a word is unique, pressing Tab will complete it for you; if hitting that key seems to do nothing, hit it again, which should show the list of words that start with what you typed so far. If nothing happens the second time around, Tab completion is not available in that spartan recovery environment and you’ll have to bite the bullet of precise manual typing. :confused:

(There are worse things than having cake shoved into one’s face :grin:)

After completing your instructions I briefly see a login top left of the screen requiring a password and then the cursor again.

(Don’t marry a lass who would like a bed in the kitchen)

OK, what does this command say?

nmcli

Assuming you are still at that prompt.