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Generally, yes, you can adopt the wiki content and move it to Discourse.

BUT

Now we get to the actual hard questions. Where should the information go? Who should maintain it (or delete it) in the future? And how to be discoverable by the folks who need it?

There are answers for some types of information.

  • HowTos can be contributed to tutorials.ubuntu.com (hosted here on Discourse), where they will be widely discoverable.

  • Triaging and diagnosis techniques might be suitable child pages for the Support and Help’s “Start Here” welcome page. Or they might be baked into the appropriate question template.

There are others. There are some grey areas, too.

So there’s no single answer the the hypothetical question.

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Ian -

Somewhat related to this topic of moving to Discourse.
The News Letter’s WIKI pages are mostly moved here - leaving many derelict WIKI pages behind,
Who do we contact to remove these old pages (I have maintained this list), somewhat cleaning up the server.

-we like clean-

We can remove our own pages that are no longer required (I’ve removed many Lubuntu pages as example; though I left most on wiki for historical purposes; many other team members would have preferred them removed too).

The older UWN issues EXIST on wiki; and those I’d vote against removing !! I’ve occasionally used them myself when I want to date something.

As for our/Ubuntu_News docs on the wiki, we can remove those if required; we can speak in #ubuntu-news if helpful.

eg. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies has been replaced by detail on this site; at the TOP (when logged in as WikiEditor) there is a More Actions dropdown menu that allows deleting page. There are also tools that delete many pages at once too.

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I think what I would suggest is moving all this old stuff into some read-only VCS. Use something like GitHub or one that supports wikis nicely (read: not Launchpad) and it should even still be readable. For what it’s worth, the MoinMoin syntax the wiki uses is fairly readable on its own. This way we can keep the old stuff while letting the wiki die.

One other thing I should say about the wiki: someone at least needs to update the home page because I’m quite sure that this statement at the top is, at present, incorrect:

you’ve come to the right place

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You can click EDIT and correct yourself… (if you can successfully login in of course; I’m logged in)

<<Include(Community/ToolKit/MenuBar)>>

=== Get Involved ===

If you want to help contribute to Ubuntu, then you’ve come to the right place. Keep reading to learn how.

If you’ve a preferred text (and cannot currently achieve login); I can change it for you too.

I’d prefer to amend text with a new link to point users too, alas can’t [currently] think of what to put there

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At the forum transition meeting today we were told that the wiki system is going to be moved to a new platform just not sure where yet but it is going to live on.

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Hah, I know. Since Discourse showed up, I haven’t touched that in aeons. It was a headache (as discussed above). Still don’t want to. I think it would probably just be wise to put a banner at the top urging folks to go to the right place (Discourse, Tutorials, etc.)

Back to what I was saying about archiving, I forgot about all those Includes. Those probably won’t work all that well anywhere, even GitHub. GitHub only supports Markdown and a little bit of MediaWiki, so that’s out. I’d be shocked if there’s another VCS service that would. In any case, I think that grabbing the associated files and archiving them and letting people sort through the text (or hey, they can install MoinMoin if they really want it all rendered) is probably best. I think I might go have IS grab the whole Lubuntu section and put it on our Gitea.

I guess this reminds me: I should probably modify my profile here to reiterate what’s on my personal wiki. I do expect at some point the wiki will go away. We’ve been talking about it for so long.

Can you ping whomever said as such here so they might be able to chime in and provide more info? My statement above may lose its relevance in light of this.

For now it was agreed upon to do as Ian suggests above but @aaronprisk is the person who knows a little more about the wiki situation but it’s a massive undertaking so I would not expect anything to happen quickly.

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Right, still, I’d rather just not bother at all for stuff that really only serves historical purposes. Most folks, I think, know not to look there. Our main wiki page redirects to the wiki on our Gitea. YMMV.