Top-bar and dock…
Yeah, it feels like jumping back to that discussion over an over again…
First I don’t understand here the step back to:
- Full opaque on max window
- no separation between top-bar and dock
After all the discussions… Some of you even sayed the liked it… Because just making the bars dark again and get rid of the separator isn’t resolving the issues with the elements at all IMHO.
The issues are, that we have a big, melting together dark/greyish wall next to the window content. At first, my mockups also were like this, but it turns out it is way too much and is definitely not eye-pleasing (especially for the ordinary user). For nerdy power users is this may be okay, but that is not our only target audience. At least, I hope we all want to design a system that can bring more people to Ubuntu.
When I open up Writer and look at the whole desktop - it is a whole lot of darkness. IMO there need to be a separation between window header and system bars. Also, the top-bar and the dock have no reason at all to melt together - this is just confusing and (please do not be offended) I just can’t see why this is a good thing at all. Different elements, different meanings and different work-tasks. It just seems that the word “Activities” has something to do with the icons in the dock.
I’m sorry that I’m so picky about it, but this NEES to work for everyone, at least as just a little compromise. This is what everyone will see first, see every time and see every day. In every app, in every circumstance (not in fullscreen, I know…).
So I’m open for solutions - but not just jumping back and try to convince me again with something that isn’t working. When the top-bar and the dock are dark, the windows header should not be. But this turns out to be one of our major “design unique features” and a kind of evolution of the Ubuntu design. And I like the window design very much.
I was hoping for a “blur” effect to be able to make the top-bar and dock more transparent in max window mode, but seems it is still not implemented. Even if they seem to use a blur effect in the upcoming login for Gnome 3.30 (??).
So yes, I will be the one who will complain as long as this isn’t looking right. And I will try to find solutions to throw in (even if I think we already had something that maybe wasn’t perfect, but working in the right direction).
So let’s again find something that’s working and please don’t just jump back to a solution, from a better working solution… (again IMHO) and try on different devices, screens, wallpapers and think about the ordinary, non expert user.