Adopting sudo-rs By Default in Ubuntu 25.10

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zebra3@zebra3:~$ sudo -V
sudo-rs 0.2.4
This is in Plucky with the alias.

sudo-rs -V In Questing
sudo-rs 0.2.5
Just for you FYI

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What about systemdā€™s run0?

Given that ubuntu adopts most of systemd, does run0 make more sense, or is it different enough from sudo that it does not make a good replacement? was run0 considered or was a run0 wrapper considered?

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Thatā€™s an excellent point. I think in that category the using run0 would be different project and problem to be solved.

sudo-rs is an easy drop-in replacement, while run0 is different approach to elevating privileges.

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is there any plan for a summary of exactly what is different? iā€™d love to see a discourse post with more detail on what this means. a high level for what features are missing, which are being prioritized for support first, and any changes in flags for items that do have feature parity would be extremely helpful.

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Heya! Just wanted to share our view on this from Cockpitā€™s POV. sudo-rs is not a drop-in replacement for sudo and instead is more of an alternative product that is sudo-like. It feels very weird to change a core package with something that hasnā€™t existed for as long as sudo has.

Cockpit currently doesnā€™t work in Ubuntu 25.10 due to sudo-rs not supporting --askpass. sudo-rs is also missing a lot of options at the moment which will Iā€™m sure breaks more than just our package.

As sudo has had these features forever, this is a huge breaking change given that features are actively removed while keeping the same name. If sudo-rs is gonna be implemented, can we call it something else and keep sudo as default?

Our current solution we offer people who use Cockpit will then be to just replace sudo-rs with sudo, which isnā€™t ideal and is quite unnecessary. Weā€™re taking a look at run0 too and whatever else but sudo has existed for such a long time and the features have been available since forever.

Iā€™d love if this could be re-evaluated and maybe postponed until it reaches feature-parity.

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Hello, I wrote an update on the progress Sudo-rs is now default for Questing Quokka.

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Hey

Thatā€™s a little unfortunate. I guess for now, the cockpit package could be adjusted to depend on sudo-ws, which would allow apt to solve this automatically for Cockpit users.

Nonetheless, I found an existing issue and have linked your comment for the maintainers to take a look at! Add support for `-A` (askpass) commandline switch Ā· Issue #1249 Ā· trifectatechfoundation/sudo-rs Ā· GitHub

Cheers
Jon

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A simple table (matrix) chart on here would do wonders for peopleā€™s understanding of similarities and differences.